HP/MP drop not fixed yet

rfr

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Description of Bug (Explain the bug, How is it done, what should it really be doing? etc. An unclear description will not get the bug fixed):HP/MP dropping for some reason.

1.The amount of HP/MP dropping is the same every time.

2.Frequency changes depends your Job. (maybe)

3.Occurs no matter what you doing.
(bossing, afk at town, training, etc)

4.Literally unplayable.

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Sothee

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This bug makes it especially hard to play certain bosses with timed healing (will or vhilla for examples) to where you could be attacking thinking you have full health and then instantly lose 50-70% of your HP/MP and can't heal to fix it and die due to it. It's been 5 months. It would be nice to get it fixed by now or at least an update/explanation on it. Thank you
 

Elxyion

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Job Level: 276

Here's a video record of mine where the HP&MP also randomly drops.


This happened around 2022-02-07 15:11:50 server time.
I am not sure if it is entirely related, but realise how in your case, your DSE and DSI expired right before you talked to the temple keeper.

I'm assuming you have those linked to pet auto buff, and from my experience, whenever a conversation window is open, buffs won't be registered/go on cooldown, so your pet will continuously try to attempt to auto buff. Since decents cost HP to cast, it will result in your HP "randomly" dropping as your pets are spamming the decent skill.

Same thing happens if you have trade window or any shops e.g. potion/legion open and your auto buffs expire. Basically any window that prevents character interaction will cause this HP dropping problem, and if your HP does drop low enough, you'll realise that your chat window will state that you do not have sufficient HP for your pet to auto cast buffs.

I am not too sure about HP dropping during boss fights, but I can only guess that it is due to lag, since buffs reacts the same way during lag where it will not be registered and does not go on cooldown, so your pet will also try to spam to get you buffed, which causes more HP to be used, therefore looking like a large random drop. That's just my 2 cents, please take it with a pinch of salt.
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I have actually replicated your problem in this video, you can see that when my decents expire, my HP starts to drop, to the point where it says that my pets are unable to buff due to insufficient HP, so technically your HP isn't randomly dropping but rather caused by your pets being unable to buff succesfully

 

hermenlee

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I am not sure if it is entirely related, but realise how in your case, your DSE and DSI expired right before you talked to the temple keeper.

I'm assuming you have those linked to pet auto buff, and from my experience, whenever a conversation window is open, buffs won't be registered/go on cooldown, so your pet will continuously try to attempt to auto buff. Since decents cost HP to cast, it will result in your HP "randomly" dropping as your pets are spamming the decent skill.

Same thing happens if you have trade window or any shops e.g. potion/legion open and your auto buffs expire. Basically any window that prevents character interaction will cause this HP dropping problem, and if your HP does drop low enough, you'll realise that your chat window will state that you do not have sufficient HP for your pet to auto cast buffs.

I am not too sure about HP dropping during boss fights, but I can only guess that it is due to lag, since buffs reacts the same way during lag where it will not be registered and does not go on cooldown, so your pet will also try to spam to get you buffed, which causes more HP to be used, therefore looking like a large random drop. That's just my 2 cents, please take it with a pinch of salt.
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I have actually replicated your problem in this video, you can see that when my decents expire, my HP starts to drop, to the point where it says that my pets are unable to buff due to insufficient HP, so technically your HP isn't randomly dropping but rather caused by your pets being unable to buff succesfully


Thank you for your 2 cents which actually helps to narrow down the possible causes of such random HP and MP drops.

According to what you've mentioned and shown, one of the possible causes for my HP and MP to drop is because of my DSE and DSI expired while my pet is trying to auto buff since decents cost HP to cast. However in my video, you can have a look on my buffs where DSE and DSI hasn't been cast during my HP and MP drops which is before I got into Pink Bean (as well as after I got into Pink Bean).

Also not to mention that DSE and DSI should only cost 5% of my total HP which should be ( ~87,000 - ( 87,000 * 5% * 2 ) = 78,300 ), however my HP was reduced to almost half of my total HP. On top of that, both my HP and MP was reduced by almost half, if the pet auto buff was the cause of action, the only thing that should drop is my HP but not both HP and MP.

However I wouldn't completely deny that what you've mentioned could be the cause of action and will leave that to the GMs to find out.

Thank you !
 

brumps

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Jul 20, 2018
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I've been watching this bug since the launching of the server, in my main (bishop) happens everytime a buff expires, then my hp and Mp drop to the base value (the value without max hp/Mp % increase) they put this bug in the troubleshooting section saying that is due to hacking/flagging (what it doesn't make any sense) and probably is a bug that they don't know how to fix. In the bug report session they list the known issues and the last time I checked this bug was included.
 

rfr

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Jun 20, 2020
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I am not sure if it is entirely related, but realise how in your case, your DSE and DSI expired right before you talked to the temple keeper.

I'm assuming you have those linked to pet auto buff, and from my experience, whenever a conversation window is open, buffs won't be registered/go on cooldown, so your pet will continuously try to attempt to auto buff. Since decents cost HP to cast, it will result in your HP "randomly" dropping as your pets are spamming the decent skill.

Same thing happens if you have trade window or any shops e.g. potion/legion open and your auto buffs expire. Basically any window that prevents character interaction will cause this HP dropping problem, and if your HP does drop low enough, you'll realise that your chat window will state that you do not have sufficient HP for your pet to auto cast buffs.

I am not too sure about HP dropping during boss fights, but I can only guess that it is due to lag, since buffs reacts the same way during lag where it will not be registered and does not go on cooldown, so your pet will also try to spam to get you buffed, which causes more HP to be used, therefore looking like a large random drop. That's just my 2 cents, please take it with a pinch of salt.
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I have actually replicated your problem in this video, you can see that when my decents expire, my HP starts to drop, to the point where it says that my pets are unable to buff due to insufficient HP, so technically your HP isn't randomly dropping but rather caused by your pets being unable to buff succesfully

Thank you for your 2 cents which actually helps to narrow down the possible causes of such random HP and MP drops.

According to what you've mentioned and shown, one of the possible causes for my HP and MP to drop is because of my DSE and DSI expired while my pet is trying to auto buff since decents cost HP to cast. However in my video, you can have a look on my buffs where DSE and DSI hasn't been cast during my HP and MP drops which is before I got into Pink Bean (as well as after I got into Pink Bean).

Also not to mention that DSE and DSI should only cost 5% of my total HP which should be ( ~87,000 - ( 87,000 * 5% * 2 ) = 78,300 ), however my HP was reduced to almost half of my total HP. On top of that, both my HP and MP was reduced by almost half, if the pet auto buff was the cause of action, the only thing that should drop is my HP but not both HP and MP.

However I wouldn't completely deny that what you've mentioned could be the cause of action and will leave that to the GMs to find out.

Thank you !
Thank you for the info.

As you both say, decent skill may be the cause of the problem and you are also right in claiming that it is strange that MP is reduced.
However in my estimation, Decent skill is probably doesn't matter.

In my video, there are still three pet skills and decent skill is not set on the pet and decent skills still on CD.
Of course you don't use decent skills in the city for no reason.
And before this bug, it was fine to use the decent skill.

However, I believe the problem is not so much what causes the problem, but finding a way to counter it.

Maybe the players can find a way to work around this bug, so let's all work together!

(using translate, sorry if it's not clear)
 
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